Pharmacist Marilena Grittani tells us about an embarrassing moment that caused a mean old southern matron to clutch her pearls. She also tells us what a super salad is! She gives us two awesome cooking hacks, suggest the book The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho, and advises us to be open.

My Guest: Marilena has been a Clinical Pharmacist for over 26 years with experience in retail, hospital, Oncology, NICU, ED, ICU, Long Term Care and Management, she was the director of Pharmacy of an inpatient rehab hospital for 4 years.

Marilena Grittani Fancy Free Podcast

Reminders:

Thanks so much for listening, have a great week, and remember NO ONE is as fancy as they look!

~Joanne

Episode Transcript:

Joanne: You are listening to the Fancy Free Podcast where my guests and I tell our most embarrassing funny stories so that we all feel less alone in our imperfections. I’m Joanne Jarrett, and I’m your host. Today, I have with me Marilena Grittani. Marilena is a clinical pharmacist and she has been for over 26 years.

She has experience in retail, hospital, oncology, neonatal intensive care unit, emergency department, the intensive care unit, long term care and management. So she has been all over the hospital, you guys, and she’s also worked at an inpatient rehab hospital for four years. Marilena, welcome, and thank you so much for being here.

Marilena: Thank you for having me. It’s fun. I love to do this. It’s good to have been the other side.

Joanne: Yeah, absolutely. Marilena has a podcast, which we will talk about later, but that’s why she’s talking about being on the other side, and I love it too. I love doing podcast interviews. That’s actually how I got my start. Well, fill in the blanks. What did I miss about who you are and what you do.

Marilena: When I talk about rehab hospitals, people think about junkies. I’m like, no, no, no, no, no. That’s not what it is.

Joanne: It’s so funny that you point out that distinction because your podcast is the Legal Drug Dealer, which just cracks me up. So you guys. Marilena is a legal drug dealer, I. E. pharmacists.

Marilena: I am. I am actually so legal that I’m licensed in five different States. So yes, I am very legal.

Joanne: Are you a nomad or are you just in a region where you need that?

Marilena: My husband, that’s what it is. We decided before he turned 40 that he was going to go for high end corporate jobs and in order for him to climb faster, we had to move. So every time that I moved, I needed to get license. Until this time I said, this is the last one. If we move again, I don’t care. I’m going to be a podcaster. I can do it from anywhere. I don’t need to have another license.

Joanne: I really am impressed that you were willing to get licensed in all those States. That might not sound like much. It might sound like, Oh, you just submit your school records and you’re done. No, it’s huge.

Marilena: Actually, I talk about it in one of my episodes. I think it’s number four. What I say exactly what I need to go through to do that, how expensive it was and how complicated it was, but that only shows how much I love my husband, so he’s going to have to listen to this part. Thank you for giving me those brownie points.

Joanne: Yes, you’re welcome. If you lived here, I’d make you a pan of brownies for doing that.

Marilena: Some states are easier than others. Pharmacy has created an organization that tracks all this, so if you want to transfer it from one state to another, you just have to tell them, Hey, I want to transfer. They send everything and they pre-approve you. Let’s just put it that way. And then you go through the gallery of that state. Yeah, and I can tell you everything about it because I have done it four times. So yeah, if anybody needs help, I’ll be happy to help.

Joanne: You are a pro. Here’s another side hustle for you. You could be a consultant for helping pharmacists move their licensure.

Marilena: People. I’m here for you.

Joanne: Oh my gosh. It’s so funny. All right. Well, as you know, the point of this podcast is to share our not so fancy moments with our listeners so that they feel less embarrassed about what they have been going through and they feel less alone in their imperfections. So what not so fancy moments are you going to tell us about today?

Marilena: I have so many that if we really talk about 10 of them, it’s going to take us three months. I’m going to tell you one that is being iconic. It happens when I was still a graduate intern, which was probably 2007-2008 but it’s so embarrassing that that still is stuck to me.

So it’s been a long time. There was a show on TV called the lonely planet. Well, it was a bunch of people, different people that went all over the world traveling, and they will show you what they do, their, their culture, their food. The beautiful places and they had one specific guy. His name was Ian.

and he was lovely and I was telling these two people on a Sunday that we were slow. We didn’t have that much to do in the pharmacy. I used to work for Eckerd’s. Then I was telling them about this show. Of course, my English, my, my language there was not that fluent and I was very. You know, into it. And I was very focused on that cause I wanted them to understand how fun it was and I wanted them to get into it.

I was talking with my pharmacist and one of my techs and then the phone rang and I answer and I said, lonely planet, how may I help you?

Both my pharmacist and my tech looked at me and they exploded laughing and I am like. Oh my gosh, what do I say now? I’m like, ma’am, I’m so sorry. This is Eckert’s pharmacy. How can I help you out? They’re laughing so loud that I couldn’t hear, so I’m trying to go away from them trying to answer and help this lady. It was so embarrassing.

Joanne: Oh my gosh, I have so many questions, but it’s funny. So what did the lady on the other line say and do? Was she one of these ladies that has a great sense of humor and just laughed and said, Oh, don’t worry about it, honey? Or was she like, Oh my goodness. What did she act like?

Marilena: This was in a little town in the South about an hour south of Atlanta where it was probably 40,000 inhabitants in that town.

So a very Southern lady. I imagine her with her very high white hair full of hairspray. Talking to me.

Joanne: Clutching her pearls?

Marilena: Yeah. Cause she was offended that I dared to waste her time saying something like that. Oh, I had an accent that she didn’t like it. So it was not pretty, Oh my goodness.

Joanne: And then you couldn’t hear her on top of it. So you’re trying to like, yeah transition into a professional conversation with this impatient woman. Oh no. So she wasn’t one of the good guys. She made you feel bad about it.

Marilena: And then she said, who’s laughing at me? I’m like, Oh my God, people shut up. This lady’s so mad. Of course, when I hang up, we laughed for probably for 10 more minutes. It was so embarrassing.

Joanne: It sounds like it might’ve been worth it. Was it worth it?

Marilena: I’m still laughing, so I guess yes.

Joanne: That crazy lady was rude, but you pulled yourself together and you handled the phone call. Did you have to face her? Do you know which one she was when she came in?

Marilena: Actually, she hung up with me, so I never knew who she was, but of course she knew who I was and I was mortified by that because number one, my accent is a little bit hard to forget. Uh, number two, she knew everybody in that pharmacy. I was the only one new. So I know that when she came back, she saw me. The mortification that I had for the rest of my time in that pharmacy. Is that her every time? I don’t even know., but I imagine her with gray hair all high and a lot of hairspray and pearls and a lot of strong perfume. Every time that I saw somebody come in like that, I’m like, is that the lonely planet lady? It was awful.

Joanne: And you’re like, listen, I’m in this small Southern town and as soon as I open my mouth, I do not blend. Everybody will know it is me.

Marilena: Actually, they started saying, where’s that accent from? And I’m like, have you heard your own accent? I would say, well, actually my accent is Southern. And they’re like, no. And I said, yes, it is because I’m from South America. There’s nothing more Southern than that. And they did not like it. I just wonder why.

Joanne: Okay, let’s rewind the tape a little bit. I am so interested in your earlier background. So you’re from South America. How did you end up here in the States as a pharmacist? Tell me a little bit about your earlier life.

Marilena: Well, I became a pharmacist when I was 21 years old and I went to pharmacy school, which is funny. I wanted to go to pharmacy school because I wanted to be actually working with food, but in my country, that was actually a minor of pharmacy school, which is called bromatology. That is the science of food. I wanted to make canned food and products that we only have in Venezuela to bring to the world, but then life changed on me and I became a pharmacist with a minor in bromatology, but then I only practice pharmacy with medications. I worked in different areas. I met the guy that I ended up marrying and we moved here because he got a job here. And the situation in Venezuela wasn’t that good right there. So I said, okay, let’s do it. And that’s why I moved here, moved to California originally, and uh, it took me a while to get my license again. The process was awful. It took me seven years to be licensed, but I finally did it. And now I’ve been licensed for 12 years and I’m, Oh my goodness, I’m five States. I have to milk that. It was so hard.

Joanne: Yeah. Tell me again how many different States?

Marilena: I’m going to tell you it was Nevada. And then Texas.

Joanne: It was Nevada? Where did you live in Nevada?

Marilena: In Vegas, of course.

Joanne: Oh, I’m from Reno. You started drug dealing in Vegas.

Marilena: That not really bad, but it was funny because everybody would ask me, Oh, you work for the business, for the industry? I’m like, what industry? Cause you know that Vegas talking. And they were like, Oh, the show business. I’m like, no, I’m at the drug dealing business. No, I like that.

Joanne: I, I love it. I love a good play on words.

Marilena: That’s why my podcast name is like that. I always introduce myself as the legal drug dealer and my husband is also a pharmacist, so we are the drug dealing family.

Joanne: Is your husband from Venezuela as well? No, my husband is very American typical guy. He’s from Dallas and he grew up in Canada, so he is not like me.

Joanne: He’s North American.

Marilena: Definitely. Yeah. And he actually has dual citizenship, so there you go. Yes.

Joanne: Where did you guys meet at work?

Marilena: You know, that’s another interesting story. That is funny. You know those commercials when somebody comes in with a new hair product, whatever, and the hair is. Moving in slow motion and it’s like in the beautiful music. That was the way that I saw him walking towards me when I met him in slow motion, like he was modeling, and then in my head I was telling myself. Turn your head. He’s looking at you and I’m like, he’s too hot

Joanne: And your mouth is gaping open and drool starts to fall.

Marilena: I don’t remember if I did, but I bet my mouth was open because he looked so hot to me and I, and he kept walking towards me because he noticed that I was new and he’s like, who is this person? He was curious. And I was just looking at him like, Oh my God, this is a movie happening. And I was working on an order for a baby, and I’m like, the baby needs his dose turned around and my head is like, he’s too hot. I can’t stop.

Joanne: Save the baby.

Marilena: Fortunately, it was a food thing. Yeah. So finally I felt like my voice in my head turned my chin to the other side because I couldn’t. And then I kept looking at the screen and then he came over and he say, hi. I’m like, Oh, I could die right now. God make me disappear because I’m so embarrassed. But the baby needed help. So good thing it didn’t happen. And that’s how we met. He was consulting there. He was a pharmacist. That was in Texas. I moved to the state, married to somebody else who is not worth talking about, and then I met him a little over 10 years ago at work and we worked together for a long time. We both went through a divorce being there, and then we started dating. Awesome. Even today, I look at him, I’m like, ah, you take my breath away. We have novellas in our country. They are so part of the culture that it had to be like that. That’s how I know that he’s the one.

Joanne: Oh, cute! What a great origin story for your relationship! That’s so neat. All right, well, you have a story too about awkwardness in a restaurant. Tell me about that.

Marilena: Oh my gosh, that was so bad. That was when I moved to the U.S. and we moved originally to Southern California. We went to the restaurants because we just moved in and because it was normally at lunch, the server comes and say, you know, you want a super salad and you know every single restaurant that I went, that was the question, do you want super salad?

And I’m like. No, and then I order whatever I need it probably the fifth of the sixth time I got sick of it, I was with the one that we shouldn’t be talking about because he was

Joanne: the man who shall not be mentioned.

Marilena: Yeah. I looked at the server. I’m like. How big is this salad? My tone was upset. I’m like, lady, how big is this salad? And she’s like, what do you mean? And I said, well, you said that it’s a super salad. How big is that? And she looked at me, I didn’t say super salad. I said, soup or salad? His face is a joke. I just laugh about it. And just now and then her face is like, you lady. I’m like. Embarrassed of course, because I just didn’t understand.

Joanne: Oh, of course. You’re like, how super is this salad? I don’t want to supersize my salad. I just want a meal. I don’t even want a salad.

Marilena: So you under and I appreciate it very much.

Joanne: And I have been a waitress. I was a waitress in high school and college. If I had been your waitress, I think I would’ve been like, Oh my gosh, I can totally see where you would have thought that. You probably have been just so confused. No, I’m sorry. I didn’t enunciate properly. I meant soup or salad. Those are your choices, you know? But anyway, these two people in these stories, they just have not been your friend.

Marilena: No, no. But you know. No, it’s fine. I laugh about it now. It was embarrassing. It is. But it’s fun now. Yeah.

Joanne: Well, do you have a quick life hack that you think that the listeners might like to use?

Marilena: I like to cook high volume, like I don’t like to make food just for now. I will make like four or five meals at the time. So then I just put them in the refrigerator and you know, I will have enough food for several days, but then you get bored about eating the same thing because you know, lunch and dinner the same. So I came up with this, the hack, I guess I just put my, my meals ready in a Tupperware, and then with the Sharpie, I write on it and what it is. And the date, and then I bought a freezer and then I keep them there and I separate them by who they are. Like my daughter now, she’s in college, but when she was living with us, she would come from high school straight to the freezer. She will find the menu and she will pick whatever she wanted to pick. She will just put it in the microwave, defrost it, and she had homemade food by mom, you know? And then I would cook. Yeah, we cook every once in a while. I mean, for little. Dinner, but if we wanted to have something like for my husband to take to work for myself to take to work, or my, my daughter loved that because when her friends came over, they will be like, can we go to study to your house?

Joanne: And then they would just go, yeah. Can we open the freezer and see what’s in there?

Marilena: Yeah.

Joanne: What’s your favorite thing to cook?

Marilena: One thing that I love to cook for others because it makes others happy paella. Yeah. It’s like rice with seafood is very typical from Spain. It’s like a yellowish rice because it has Saffron and it has a lot of seafood. It has shrimp and clams and squid and all kinds of stuff, and it’s beautiful.

Joanne: We love seafood, but do you know what? This is so sad. My daughter, my youngest daughter, is allergic to shellfish, and we didn’t find out until she was, she was only seven or eight. We’re so sad. We miss shrimp. For one thing, it’s so fast. It’s a fast protein.

Marilena: You boil it, boiled shrimp. Well, not you at your house when your daughter’s not there, and then. I don’t know how to pronounce it, so I call it the English sauce is the wisher sister stir sauce. I know the w sauce, and then you mix it with pink sauce, which is mayonnaise and a little bit of ketchup. You mix the three sauces and then you just dip that in there. The best appetizer that you can ever make for anybody. If you have people over, you have frozen shrimp in the fridge. It’s going to be so, Oh my God, what is this sauce? And you just have to say that is a family recipe. I’m sorry.

Joanne: Oh my gosh. Well, there you go. There’s another life hack for you. That’s awesome. Awesome, awesome. I like that. I am always looking for things that are crowd pleasers, but that I can either make ahead of time or super quick.

Marilena: but then the water that you boil, the shrimp, you save it and then you freeze it. And then whenever you’re going to make. Whatever rice you want to make, you use that water and it gets flavored. The water that I use for paella. I love to cook. I’m sorry. I do. Um, if I’m making you hungry people, I apologize.

Joanne: What have you been loving lately that you think the listeners would love to? Well, I love a book called the Alchemist is a book by a Brazilian author, Paulo Coelho. And, uh, I read it the first time when I was probably 16, 17 years old, and it was quite of a interesting book for me then, but it didn’t click because at 16 who’s smart? Nobody, not me. So it didn’t make that much sense for me. But after that, when I was like 24 25 somebody was talking about it and I’m like, I have that book. I’m going to read it again. Since then, I’ve been reading it at least once a year. It’s a book that talks about life, a book that talks about how the universe works and you think that you, as a human being, we tried to control everything. You know, hold on. Who are you to change the whole universe because it’s convenient or, or is the way that you planned it? So this book teaches that one of the phrases that the book has that have stuck with me forever is the universe confabulated for things to happen. When is the right time for you when things are happening like that, I’m like, Oh, the universe is aligning for this to happen and until depart until the perfect time is there. It’s not gonna work. It doesn’t matter how much you push it, how much upset you get. How pissy you get. It’s not gonna work. And as I’ve said afterward, it’s not a second early or a second later is at the perfect time. That is going to happen. The book is so smart. It’s like a two hours book, so it’s not that I’m dedicating three months to read a book. No, it’s that. And every time that I read it, it leaves me something different because I am in a different path of my own journey that speaks to me in a different way every time. That’s why I continue to believe we did and I recommended a lot, so there you go Paulo Coelho, give me some royalties or something.

Joanne: There you go. Absolutely right. I will link to that in our show notes. A lot of people talk about the universe, and I think that it sort of depends on where you’re coming from, what the universe means to you. In my mind, when I hear the word universe, I plug in God because I come from a God-centric way of thinking and I know other people just look at it differently. And I just find that so fascinating that we can all take wisdom from something like that no matter sort of where we’re coming from and that we all might get a little bit of different wisdom depending.

Marilena: Yeah.

Joanne: What is the best piece of advice you’ve ever been given?

Marilena: Be open. And it happened recently, you know, I think I’m open. Of course, I am. And I was talking to my executive coach that is wonderful. And if you guys don’t have one, you need to get one because you’d see life differently when you do.

Joanne: I’ve heard that so much lately, I think. I think maybe God’s talking to me about that. I keep hearing it every day.

Marilena: The universe is aligning for you to get one, that’s right. That’s right. So what she said is, you need to be open to what’s coming, but how about if I opened the door and the tsunami comes over and instead of figuratively, of course, but I meant bad stuff, stuff that I cannot control. And then she said, well, but how about the good things? The same way that you’re not letting the bad things come in. You are not ready to good things and you’re missing a lot. Right? And I said, but, but hold on, I am open. And she said, are you really, she knows me a little bit because we have business together. And it was at a retreat that we had last year. Um, the next day I was thinking about that. And then we had a one on one conversation and we were by the door of the facility that we were staying. And I said, you know, Carla Michelle, what I learned, I learned that I had the door unlocked. But I never opened it.

Joanne: That’s so good. That’s such a cool analogy. You were receptive to someone else opening the door, but you weren’t going to open the door yourself.

Marilena: Yeah, and since then I make an effort to do it. And it’s scary because you do think that the tsunami’s gonna come over and eat you alive for a month, or maybe you have a Ghostbuster, I don’t know. No, but it’s scary, but a certain age, you’re like, okay, I need to experience life because I’m halfway through already, so when am I going to do this? Nobody, not doing stuff that exists, but you think, right? That’s what you’re afraid. You just have to be brave momentarily, so be open. You would learn a lot. You would be a better human being whenever you get open for real, not just on locking the door, just opening the door.

Joanne: What is one surprising thing about you that no one would be able to tell just by looking?

Marilena: I don’t think people believe that I cook. Hmm. Because I am a pharmacist. Right. And, um, and I wear my white coat and I have my professional way and I’m always running to run in the hospital. Yeah. I don’t like to clean. I pay for people to do it because I don’t like to do it, but I’m good at cooking. And people don’t believe it. And then when I invite people to come over, I’m cooking. They’re like, ah, no. I’ll go to a restaurant. And then once they try the food, they’re like, when are you cooking again?

Joanne: Well, yeah. There’s something about when we’re in our clinical mode that people, they’re not able to well envision us in a normal domestic life.

Marilena: Yeah.

Joanne: That’s really, that’s, I hadn’t really thought about that too much before, but actually it reminds me of one time when I was in line at the DMV and I had delivered this baby. I have delivered a lot of babies in training. And this man walked up to me and he said, Dr. Jarrett! And I said, Oh, hi! I remembered him because I had delivered his baby just a month or so ago. And he goes, I didn’t think doctors waited in line at the DMV. And it’s like, of course, we do. How else are we supposed to register our cars? People compartmentalize and we don’t realize that we only occupy a specific compartment in other people’s minds. And so when they see us out of context, then it really takes them a minute, you know?

Marilena: And I want to take this opportunity, if you don’t mind, to say something that hurts my colleagues and people do it constantly and they don’t even realize that because of what you just said. When you go through a pharmacy to be called a medication, you are either in pain. You just came from a doctor’s office that you waited three hours because doctors are awful making you wait. I’m sorry, I said it.

Joanne: No, you’re right. I wrote this article called 13 things good doctors wish their patients knew, and I addressed that issue specifically in one of the 13 things because it’s so painful as a physician to be on one side of it, and some are better than others at minding that. But yeah, it’s a, it’s a hard issue anyway. Okay, so they come, they’re at the pharmacy, they’re either scared or they’re in pain, or they’re ill and they’ve already been waiting.

Marilena: They don’t have the patience to deal with pharmacy because for them, pharmacy is like a drive through. Give me my burger, I’m on a move on. People don’t understand everything that is involved with getting your prescription ready that I talk about in one of my episodes in episode number two specifically, I’m like, you people need to listen to what we need to do because there’s a lot and we are here taking care of you. But anyway, people are rude to us. Like, what do you mean I need to wait half an hour for my drug? The pills are right there, put in a bottle, give it to me.

Joanne: People don’t understand that there’s a lot riding on this, being the proper medications in the proper dose and looking at the patient’s history and making sure there’s no allergy, making sure there aren’t any other medications that are going to interact with that.

Marilena: There’s a lot of responsibility on the pharmacist’s head when it comes to that, and they can’t do that instantaneously. It’s not like just going and ordering food on top of the fact that there’s a law that controlled drugs need to be checked in a system that you need to find out when was the last time that this person took it and who delivered it to them. It’s a law. We have to follow it and then guess what. You are not the only patient that I have before you. I had 30 people that came in the same circumstances that you came that are waiting for their medication as well. So even though there’s nobody in line, we’re working, we’re not here waiting for you to show up. And again, a pharmacy is a burger place. It’s not an In n’ Out. By the way, if you haven’t tried In n’ Out, you should go.

Joanne: Today’s busy. We were not sitting around talking about lonely planet.

Marilena: Well, yeah.

Joanne: The last time I went to the pharmacy, I walked up and I live in a really little town, so there are probably a thousand people that are patrons of this pharmacy. And everybody kind of knows everybody, but I walked into the pharmacy and I said, Oh, hi, how are you? And the gal said, remind me of your name again. And I said I would not expect you to know my name. It’s Joanne Jarrett. There are a thousand of us and there’s only one of you, and she goes, thank you so much for understanding that. And I was like, wow, these gals must really get browbeaten and everybody expects them to know them as soon as they walk in the door. That’s really hard.

Marilena: The funny part is when they come, I need my pills. Okay. Number one, who are you? I need more information. Number two, what pills. And then sometimes they answer their little white round one. You know how many white round pills we have in a pharmacy? Probably 90% of them. So no, that doesn’t help. And, and the other thing is like, Oh, but we get this every month. How come you don’t remember. Well because I have 6,000 patients and each one of them has at least three drugs. Some of them have 25 or 30 drugs. So how do you think my memory is going to work like that? Oh my goodness. The only way that we will remember you if you’re extremely nice or if you’re strictly rude. If you’re rude, nobody wants to talk to you. If you’re nice, everybody’s going to do everything for you. That’s the way that works in pharmacy. Retail anyway.

Joanne: Interesting. All right. Well, where can our listeners find you? Tell us where they can find your podcast and your Facebook page and Facebook group and Instagram. Tell us about all of it.

Marilena: The web page, of course, is called the legal drug dealer.com. And my podcast is the legal drug dealer podcast and is in every single platform out there. Also, my Facebook is a legal drug dealer page, but it’s also a legal drug dealer, private group, which is a place that I invite people to join, to ask questions because sometimes you doctors don’t know exactly what it is and what to expect because again, you don’t go to school to learn about drugs. We do. We are the drug experts and people are uncomfortable asking questions or the doctors don’t have time, or the nurses want to answer the question, but they don’t give them exactly the information. And then the big retail pharmacists are so busy that they don’t have time to answer questions. So I am creating this avenue for people to come over and ask questions so I could answer them right there on Facebook. If it’s private, I will respond directly to my email. You can send questions comments@thelegaldrugdealer.com or if it’s a common question, I will present it once a month in my podcast and I will just address questions that people ask because maybe the question that you have others have too. Actually, I prepared a downloadable document for your audience if they would like to get it. It talks about the five tips for non-prescription drugs that every family should know. And they’re professional tips. Okay. We’re talking about, uh, what to know about pain medications that you can get over the counter, like at the pharmacy or the grocery store. And you need to know stuff that you don’t even think about. Same thing for heartburn medications. Like, you know, the ones that help you with the stomach when it bothers you. Vitamins in general. It also has stuff about sleeping pills that people don’t think about certain stuff. So that, that is there. And the last one is, as you mentioned before, dosing kids, parents don’t remember, don’t understand stuff. And when grandparents are taking care of the babies, they don’t know. They don’t remember. And their time pass a long time ago and things are different. So these tips are very important for everybody.

Joanne: Yes. Oh my gosh. I can’t wait to look at that. I have actually, I have a talk that I love to give and I’m actually working on writing an article right now about it, about common over the counter medications for children, and I have very strong opinions about how that section of the grocery store should be shopped and certain things that should be avoided. And you and I probably agree on a lot of it.

Marilena: Yes, ma’am. You need to come to my podcast now. I’m making this public. It is. Yes. You have to come over and we will talk about this in my podcast. So people, if you want to listen to us again, you have to come to my podcast, the legal drug dealer. Oh, fine.

Joanne: I would love to be a guest on the legal drug dealers. All right. Awesome. Well, you have been a fabulous guest and thank you so, so much.

Marilena: You’re very welcome. It was fun to do it. Thank you for having me. Yeah, you’re welcome.

Joanne: Thank you so much for being with us this week on the fancy free podcast. Wasn’t Marilena great? I love her gorgeous accent. I think I could listen to her talk all day and then she just had such a unique humorous perspective on life. Make sure to check out the show notes for today’s episode number 33 at fancyfreepodcast.com to get all of the links we discussed, including Marilena’s printable that she is providing to the fancy free listeners.

And Marlena and I did have a discussion about over the counter medications and dosing for kids over on her podcast, The legal drug dealer. So I will let you guys know when that comes out. It should be later this month. We had a ton of fun and I think the talk will be very useful to you if you have kids or grandkids that you’re ever in charge of taking care of.

Next week on the show, I have Jordan Burchette of the Cold Coffee and Cotton Stems podcast. She is adorable. She has a few funny stories for us. One about a photo that she sent. One about an awkward phone conversation that she had with a client. And then of course, we throw in some bodily function for good measure. Remember to subscribe to this show so that new episodes pop into your feed each week.

I mentioned the 13 things good doctors wish their patients knew article. I will link that for you in case you’re curious to know what the other 12 things are and to hear more about what I have to say about doctors always making their patients wait.

If you have a story to tell, email me at notfancy@fancyfreepodcast.com I would love to interview you for the show or read a little email excerpt from you on the show or play a voice memo that you record whatever you’d like to send over.

And if you want more connection and laughter and sharing, please request to join the fancy free Facebook group. We’re having a lot of fun over there. We have a question each week. This week the question is, what is your most embarrassing phone story? And you guys, I have a doozy. I told Marlena about this story during our interview, but the episode was getting too long, so I had to cut it out, so I definitely will. I’ll head over to Facebook and tell you guys about it. If you thought I was fancy, now you’ll know the truth, but I know you already knew I wasn’t. I would love it if you’d follow the fancy free podcast on Instagram and tell a girlfriend about the show. If you’re enjoying it, let’s spread the news that being vulnerable and telling our not so fancy stories is a way that we can connect and normalize imperfection and just relate to other women or people in general. Have a great week and remember, no one is this fancy as they look.

 

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